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If you were to take the act of coding and map all the elements that are part of learning how to do it, how would those elements map onto a good shmup?

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Not sure what your question is asking.  Are you wondering what elements of general development apply to coding shmups?  Or is this something more metaphysical?

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If coding were a shmup, it'd be coding asm, since it has few commands but is still the foundation for most of its department, isnt it ... also its pretty linear as far is i know and not very forgiving on errors

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[BIG F$#!!NG LASER]

Weird question, but, now that I think of it, I guess some late night debugging sessions do feel a bit like navigating through a really complicated curtain of boss bullet fire. You're in that Zen-like (or Rain Man-like) state of detachment, and for a moment you actually believe you'll make it, just hang in there for five... more... seconds... At which point the boss decides to turn on the BIG F$#!!NG LASER which you've never seen before. You're so dead.

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I suppose bugs do tend to follow patterns that you learn over time.  But there's always that new one you've never seen, as mpersano says

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Not sure what your question is asking.  Are you wondering what elements of general development apply to coding shmups?  Or is this something more metaphysical?

Bill

Kind of like what mpersano responded with (awesome).  Lately I've been using the technique of looking at certain things that I have to do in terms of video games and it seems to make them more interesting.

I'm not hoping to come up with some kind of deep revelation   But I myself enjoy thinking in these terms.

A recent personal example, "Okay, I've got to draw a line and rotate it on the screen"  (really basic but bear with me haha).  So in getting to the final solution (the end of level boss) I have to battle the intermediate steps.  And every stab I take at a solution is like firing a weapon... ("Oh, wait I have to use a sin function and not these silly decrements blah blah" -- lose a life, play again).

Just fun really.  Thanks for playing!

PS: That really happened -- I was using this roundabout way to rotate a line and spent all this time doing mathematical hacks until I realized that sin is used fro that sort of thing

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To be honest, I never used reflection and have no idea how it works. If someone could explain them in terms of a shmup it would be really helpful. It took something similar for me to "get" OOP inheritance and couple more concepts that sound like complete nonsense on paper.

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To be honest, I never used reflection and have no idea how it works. If someone could explain them in terms of a shmup it would be really helpful. It took something similar for me to "get" OOP inheritance and couple more concepts that sound like complete nonsense on paper.

One way of putting it (horribly but it helps flesh out the overall idea) is "let's pretend", another way of looking at it is just seeing how one thing is like another.

shmups have weapons, enemies, bosses, bullets, etc.
So the reflection would be the things that are like weapons, enemies, bosses, bullets, etc.
If I want coding to be a reflection of a shmup, I look at things in coding that are like weapons, enemies, bosses, bullets, etc.

Whatever works for the person is what is aimed for.  It's a technique that works for me to make things more fun/interesting when I have to get something done and I need a purely mental boost.

I think the thing is a mathematical research point with billions of papers and academic stuff, so it's nothing novel or anything (not my intention either).

Whether or not this helps, this is what I can offer.  Cheers!

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Whether or not this helps, this is what I can offer.  Cheers!

Good luck in the next rapid prototype session

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[The rapid prototyping comp looks awesome and I'm looking forward to the next one!]

Whether or not this helps, this is what I can offer.  Cheers!

Good luck in the next rapid prototype session

Bill

Thanks for the word
I can totally believe how ignorant I was of that concept but I'm glad at least now I know.
I'm almost taken totally from coding for just prototyping, but I can't just stay on the playground forever.
Dale from "King of the Hill" does this "sha sha" thing and I'd do that right now if I could.

PS: With the "playground" thing I mean just playing around with the technique in any area of work -- for me it's so fun to do prototyping that I could just do that all the time and never do real coding
The rapid prototyping comp looks awesome and I'm looking forward to the next one!